Striking-Warning9533 | 10 points | Mar 03 2021 02:02:36
我们学校的”辩论“(其实是写好稿件上去读但是之前可以看到对反大哥稿件)民主还是极权,我抽到了民主,但是感觉写的力度不够(历史背景是二战前,所以支那人民共和国和很多苏联的例子没法用)
我的稿:
开头:
Our country should have a democratic government. Democratic means that we the people own the country. A democratic government is what we believe the best for our nation, country, and people. We believe that the government should be in a form of democracy is because: first, it can protect people’s natural rights; second, it can let the people’s voice be heard and let the people become the main body of the nation; finally, the democratic government ensures that there are more people involved in the government and the policies decision, and thus the policies can be more carefully considered.
We the people, desire to form a free land, hanker to establish Justice, crave for domestic Tranquility, yearn for Blessings of Liberty. All these, for ourselves and our Posterity. We aim to found a free land, and it only can be done by democracy.
观点:
Many rights come from nature, which are called natural rights. These rights cannot be taken away by the government. But if there is no democracy, there is no way to limit the government's actions. The government can do what they want. The domestic is a way to let people supervise and limit government. People are always greedy; no one can hold themselves back when facing power. Once they got unlimited power, they will try their best to keep their power, and they will not hesitate to do any crazy things.
Democratic is the voice of the people. There is an idea called popular sovereignty, which means that people are the main body of the country, not the government. If the government is the main body, but the people are not, since there are only a small number of people in the government, it is impossible to do something that fits all the people’s interests.
The policies in the democratic (here, I am talking about the republic democratic, or representative democracy) are made by a group of people. While in a totalitarian government, it is usually made by one person. Thus, the policies in a democratic country can be more carefully decided, usually.
对方辩友:(不放完整的了,只列举重点)
- One reason Totalitarianism is good for our country is that it can implement rapid change.
- Totalitarianism also allows everyone to be equal. Most times in a democratic country, there is a lot of division in the standard of living, or equality of living.
- Totalitarian governments also generate a lot of influence on their economy. They can do this easily because there are no competing parties within the system.
反驳:
Totalitarianism can indeed do a fast change usually, but if the change is wrong, please tell me what is the point of making this change? It is just like when you want to get to school faster and drive through a river. “All the animals are equal while some animals are more equal.” This is a quote from Animal Farm, it is what the society in a totalitarian country looks like. The person or the group of people who have power will try their best to make a profit for themselves since there is nothing that limits them. The only “equality” totalitarianism has is all the people who do not have the power are as poor as others and the leader holds a major part of the wealth. And yes, the government can regulate the economy in a totalitarian country, but is that good? I do not mean the regulation itself, since we need some regulation from the government, and this can happen in both totalitarian and democratic countries. But the question is since the government in a totalitarian country does not need to care about people, they will just use that for their own benefit.
Work cited:
US Constitution
The Republic of China National Anthem San Min Chu-i
Animal Farm
[-] Yimoc | 10 points | Mar 03 2021 03:15:10
感觉写的有点空泛,不如多加一些历史或者实际的政策、案例,这样更有说服力
[-] [deleted] | 5 points | Mar 03 2021 04:32:12
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[-] Striking-Warning9533 | 3 points | Mar 03 2021 02:05:33
机器翻译:
(历史背景是二战前,所以支那人民共和国和很多苏联的例子没法用)
我的稿:
开头:
我国应该有一个民主政府。民主意味着我们人民拥有国家。我们认为民主政府对我们的国家,国家和人民是最好的。我们认为政府应该采取民主形式是因为:首先,它可以保护人民的自然权利;其次,它可以保护人民的自然权利。其次,它可以让人们听到自己的声音,并使人民成为国家的主体。最后,民主政府确保有更多的人参与政府和政策决策,因此可以更仔细地考虑政策。
我们人民渴望建立一个自由的土地,渴望建立正义,渴望获得国内的宁静,渴望获得自由的祝福。所有这些,对我们自己和我们的后代都是如此。我们的目标是找到一块自由的土地,只有通过民主才能做到这一点。
观点:
许多权利来自自然,被称为自然权利。这些权利不能被政府剥夺。但是,如果没有民主,就没有办法限制政府的行动。政府可以做他们想做的事。国内是让人们监督和限制政府的一种方式。人们总是贪婪的。面对权力,没人能挡住自己。一旦获得无限权力,他们将尽最大努力保持权力,并且他们会毫不犹豫地做任何疯狂的事情。
民主是人民的声音。有一个称为人民主权的想法,这意味着人民是国家的主体,而不是政府。如果政府是主体,而人民不是主体,那么由于政府中只有少数人,那么做一件符合全体人民利益的事情是不可能的。
民主制的政策(在这里,我所说的是共和国民主制或代议制民主制)是由一群人制定的。在极权政府中,通常是一个人做。因此,通常可以更仔细地决定民主国家的政策。
对方辩友:(不放完整的了,只双重重点)
-极权主义对我们的国家有利的一个原因是它可以实现迅速的变革。
-极权主义也允许所有人平等。在民主国家,多数时候,生活水平或生活平等存在很多分歧。
-极权主义政府也对其经济产生很大影响。他们可以轻松地做到这一点,因为系统内没有竞争方。
反驳:
极权主义通常确实可以做出快速的改变,但是如果改变是错误的,请告诉我进行改变的意义是什么?就像您想更快上学并驾车穿越河流一样。 “所有动物都是平等的,而有些动物则更为平等。”这是《动物农场》的引文,这是极权国家的社会模样。拥有权力的个人或一群人会尽力为自己谋取利益,因为没有什么限制他们。唯一的“平等”极权主义是所有没有权力的人都和其他人一样贫穷,而领导人占据了财富的绝大部分。是的,政府可以控制极权国家的经济,但这有好处吗?我并不是说监管本身,因为我们需要政府的一些监管,这在极权国家和民主国家都可能发生。但是问题是,由于极权国家的政府不需要关心人民,他们只会为了自己的利益而使用人民。
[-] Kappa31415 | 3 points | Mar 03 2021 04:46:45
By saying quote-on-quote "everyone", do you include the ruling party? Do you really think that people in power are equal with the common people? Totalitarianism creates a even deeper rift between the common people and the ruling class.
Without competing parties to regulate the government, who is to represent the voice of common folks before the totalitarian government imposes economic reforms? Will these reforms be in citizens' interest or in the ruling party's interest? After all, totalitarian government don't need much peoples' recognition and legitimacy to stay in power.
[-] Striking-Warning9533 | 2 points | Mar 03 2021 04:52:01
Thank you so much.
[-] Kappa31415 | 4 points | Mar 03 2021 04:58:13
One reason Totalitarianism is good for our country is that it can implement rapid change.
[-] Kappa31415 | 2 points | Mar 03 2021 04:58:55
加油干爆他们
[-] Striking-Warning9533 | 2 points | Mar 03 2021 05:53:13
我们学校99%的人支持民主,但抽到极权那一半人也没办法 lol
[-] RepresentativeOil468 | 2 points | Mar 03 2021 09:08:00
这个论点给我看笑了,属于是摆烂了
[-] Kappa31415 | 1 points | Mar 03 2021 10:02:00
語氣尖銳一點,忽悠一下highschooler就足夠了。post這個去irl 連太監也噴不過,就是沒有research 隨手寫的
[-] RepresentativeOil468 | 2 points | Mar 03 2021 10:07:31
没,我说的是对面的那个, rapid change 与好坏都不搭边,这个论点拿出来属实有点摆烂了
[-] MsAoi | 2 points | Mar 03 2021 04:51:22
推荐阅读<历史决定论的贫困&rt;、<极权主义的起源&rt;,可能对你的辩论有帮助
[-] eatbonus | 2 points | Mar 03 2021 05:38:22
有点空泛
[-] RepresentativeOil468 | 2 points | Mar 03 2021 07:26:51
还有谁能找出来华人川普支持者攻入白宫的那个自拍视屏? “WE DA PEEPLE ” 的那个
[-] Xi_Ming_Ze | 1 points | Mar 03 2021 08:15:12
汉墓里挖出来的土逼辩论,狗都不看
[-] limlilim | 14 points | Mar 03 2021 02:27:16
字太多不看,盲猜人上人英语区国家学校。辩论也就是找有利于自己的论据,方便驳斥对手的论据,合理组织语言。评分好像也不是非要以驳倒对手为准,准确清晰地表达好自己的观点和论据就行了,论据不足就查论据,表达不畅就梳理稿子