ni_ta_ni | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:10:06
I have some questionsI’m not Chinese and don’t speak Chinese but somehow I stumbled upon this sub, and the post I saw just seemed to justify the massacre of Nanking by the Japanese empire…? I believe it’s totally at the fault of Japan at that time, but I don’t intend to try lecturing you. I was just astonished. I mean, all due respect Chinese people were victims and the fact I saw what I saw in the said post just blew my mind. I hope what I believe in my mind doesn’t offend anyone. And all that said and here are the questions:
1) Where are you from specifically? 2) How old are you? 3) What kind of people in China do you think are more opposed to CCP in spite of the strict censorship?
I don’t mind if you ignore the first 2 questions if you want to keep yourself anonymous. From what I saw the people in this sub are, if you forgive me, kind of rebellious against the government, which I think is really brave. The change of the era is coming and you guys are not exceptional. I am very ashamed of myself for having stereotypical opinions about you which are that the people in China are well brainwashed by CCP, or something. I don’t know if I’m even allowed to post this kind of submission in this sub but I got really curious about you guys
[-] thenamewasused | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:14:13
You are wrong, our people here have always patriotic and support the Communist Party.
[-] PlanBoth | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:22:31
Shut up, this is Japanese Taikun. Show some respect!
[-] CesareBorgia- | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 21:22:14
Dad i am liulu a!
[-] thenamewasused | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:14:50
怎么又引流来了🐏大人
[-] thenamewasused | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:15:51
迪友们速速来拷打🐏大人
[-] asdqaz857 | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 02:04:41
这是个太君,尊重点!
[-] err_system_fail | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:15:09
f*ck off wumao
[-] T_F_Catus | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:19:34
这是太君,还不行礼?
[-] err_system_fail | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:25:07
本当にごめんなさい。わたしわ刘路です。
[-] Press_F_Pay_Respect | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 23:12:20
わたしわ…绷
[-] christopher_belter | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:15:54
哪来的刺身族
[-] PlanBoth | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:19:04
老爷老爷,不好了! 查理来了许多日本人,你看你看!
[-] PlanBoth | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:19:20
啊,日本人到咱们这儿干什么
[-] PlanBoth | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:19:40
太君,this way❤️
[-] FwjedsfE | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 23:19:11
爹,我是刘路啊
[-] Top_Bookkeeper_223 | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:19:14
芝麻
[-] WilsonEdchi | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:23:15
We're calling out the hypocrisy of CCP or Chinese nationalist in general as of historical events like Nanking Massacre. Do you know it was not considered important till the early 2000s used by Beijing to attack Japan because both countries were in a bad diplomatic relationship? Do you know Nanking has been massacred several times in the recent modern Chinese history and CCP is responsible for a good part of them? Do you know the KMT general who should have protected Nanking proved to be CCP spy? And most importantly, CCP has made up a lot of fake materials to support this " China victim, Japan and the West Bad" rhetoric to stoke up crazy nationalism. Imagine being a regime having slaughtered tens of millions of Chinese people and benefiting from Japanese invasion and Soviet intervention, and believe you have to right to represent innocent civilians in the wars to use this tragedy as a weapon to attack post war Japan that has been helping China and wishing to be friendly with each other?
[-] ni_ta_ni | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:26:17
No I didn’t. I will definitely look into that more. Thanks for enlightening me
[-] ldar2022 | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 00:35:32
My dude, literally just go onto the web version of reddit and use Google translate if you don't understand the language. 🙄
[-] ni_ta_ni | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 00:57:27
Oh I was blind I just saw the first question and rushed to answer it. My bad. I understand English fairly enough so no need but thanks for the suggestion
[-] ni_ta_ni | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:39:08
Fucking fuck. Just write in the description in the first place fuck goddammit!
[-] TransportationFine15 | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:24:23
Dude, have you ever heard about TaiPing rebellion? Some Chinese killed 30 million Chinese, and this happened only 70 years ago Japanese came. Also about 20 years later after Japanese went back home, Chinese government killed 30 million. The thing is, For a Chinese, there are only 3 options, Chinese(like TaiPing rebellion), commies( like Chinese government) or ruler from other race. In most of time, the “merciless” ruler from other country always the most kind one.
[-] Shinaswine | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:39:36
Colonel Zeng Guofan was a Han Chinese and the Japanese Imperial Army were all foreigners. So the former is just "history", while the latter is a "crime" that can be constantly pursued, which is the hypocrisy of the Chinese narrative.
[-] TransportationFine15 | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:55:25
Lmao, I’m not going to juggle words with you. For my grandfather, trusting japanese would increase his changes of getting out of alive. Nodody would care about nationalism that incresed 10 times chance of getting killed.
[-] CesareBorgia- | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 21:28:55
曾剃头也不是第一个,再往前还有猪皇帝,说凤阳道凤阳凤阳是个好地方,自从来了猪皇帝十年倒有九年荒
[-] Main_Agent_7227 | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:24:27
Have you ever heard the Sodom and Gomorrah story in the Bible? If so, you will get the answer.
[-] Leichenwagenfuehrer | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:24:31
洋大人您吉祥,给您🔒牛子了。您能滚了吗?
[-] FurudeSatoko | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:25:44
I wonder which post you were refering to...could you please post a link to that post? I remember there was indeed one post regarding Nanking massacre, but that was a parody of the logic that some Chinese people employed to justifying the Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
[-] ni_ta_ni | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:31:03
https://www.reddit.com/r/CLTV/comments/t6un4e/%E8%AE%B2%E8%AE%B2%E4%BA%8C%E6%88%98%E5%89%8D%E6%94%AF%E5%8D%8E%E5%86%A5%E5%9B%BD%E5%AF%B9%E5%A4%96%E5%9B%BD%E4%BA%BA%E7%9A%84%E6%9A%B4%E8%A1%8C%E4%B8%BA%E4%BB%80%E4%B9%88%E8%AF%B4%E5%A4%A7%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E5%B8%9D%E5%9B%BD%E8%86%BA%E6%87%B2%E6%9A%B4%E6%94%AF%E6%98%AF%E6%AD%A3%E4%B9%89%E7%9A%84%E5%BF%83%E8%BD%AF%E7%9C%8B%E4%B8%8D%E5%BE%97%E8%BF%99%E4%BA%9B%E8%AD%A6%E5%91%8A/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Wait, this is a sarcasm? I’m dumb as fuck oh no
[-] WilsonEdchi | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:33:34
This sub is mostly dark humor.
[-] err_system_fail | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:34:20
It's definitely not sarcasm and is 100% accurate historical facts. The justification is a bit questionable as it resorts to whataboutism... Nevertheless Nanking "massacre" was completely justified because Imperial Army were only executing criminals in/assisting CCP/KMT.
[-] FurudeSatoko | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:36:40
Well...this one is not the post I saw and it's probably not a sarcasm. I mistook the post you were refering to, sorry.
[-] err_system_fail | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:28:08
Stop spreading CCP propaganda. There's no Nanking massacre, taikuns were justly removing CCP/KMT gangs camouflaged as civilians, and civilians assisting the anti-human CCP/KMT. Nobody killed were innocent.
[-] ni_ta_ni | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:33:14
I know you are being sarcastic. And just that I didn’t know this whole sub is is on my dumb ass. This is hilarious
[-] Shinaswine | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:29:03
Holy Chairman Mao once taught us that "We killed too few people in Nanking, we should have killed more people in Nanking."
The ideology of the great Chairman Mao and the Japanese Imperial Army were the same.
[-] err_system_fail | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:31:26
I'd say Chairman Mao is one step ahead, Imperial Army only executed criminals helping CCP/KMT while Chairman Mao killed according to percentage of population. All hail to Chairman Mao!
[-] Shinaswine | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:34:55
Chairman Mao is our Colonel, who guides us on our glorious path!
[-] No_Entrance5739 | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:32:33
シナ人は生まれた時から既に邪悪だ 全員ぶっ殺せば
[-] err_system_fail | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:36:24
芝麻仁只有豆沙了!
[-] Ubuntu_20_04_LTS | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:37:37
芝麻五谷豆沙
[-] Ubuntu_20_04_LTS | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:33:35
I would consider the "justification" of the massacre of Nanking in this sub, or in the so-called surfing culture in general, more as a countermeasure against the censorship of CCP in a parody and meme style.
[-] T_F_Catus | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:36:38
To answer some of your questions:
People here use a lot of satire, including jokingly praising the Nanking Massacre just to troll the pro-CCP "pinkies" out there. The truth is we don't give a fuck about Chinese people being the victims of war during WWII anymore, it's been used by CCP over and over again to justify Chinese people's hate towards Japan and other western countries. Mao Zedong has killed more Chinese during his rule than Imperial Japan, him and his party brought this land to ruin when it could have the chance to turn into something better. Yet those brainwashed CCP bootlickers would ignore this fact and attack us, calling us "traitors", "white people's lapdogs", and so on. Most people here turned into what you would call "social outcasts" because of it.
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[-] ni_ta_ni | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:59:25
Oh thank you so much. As for the first question I meant the region. Anyway, thank you for enlightening my dumb ass. You are the kindest person in this sub and I guarantee it!
[-] PongPongsNotHappy | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 06:50:27
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[-] ni_ta_ni | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 01:14:12
I see. And how did you realize the propaganda is all wrong?
[-] asda-starke | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 04:12:12
Brainwashing kids into warlike nazis. I’ve lived that life as one of the kids.
[-] MythIsAXianZhong | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:59:44
Did you ever know the story of Sodom in the Scripture? China is undoutedly a place full of sin like Sodom and should be exterminated from this world. Truly, bad nation deserves punishment. You'll learn more and convince yourself if you keep knowing the nature of China.
[-] ni_ta_ni | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 20:02:14
Okay, I just got a direct message from one of you guys to further make fun of me. I don’t believe anything lol
[-] T_F_Catus | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 20:06:44
As the mod of this sub, sorry about that, people here can act trollish from time to time.
[-] ni_ta_ni | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 20:10:32
It’s okay this entire shit is so hilarious!
[-] MythIsAXianZhong | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 20:14:55
They are making fun of you because of your innocence. Chinese including us in this sub are descendants of serpant. i guess you are Japanese and hence very likely knew some history of China, for example, the three kingdoms after the Han Dynasty. In that period, over 90% of population were slaughtered each other and many were then even ate by others. And in Chinese history these anti-human history took place at least 20 times. Even in the time of peace when no war or natural disaster, Chinese kill their female baby and eat human beings because of femine that caused by despotism.
[-] MythIsAXianZhong | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 20:18:21
And now the CCP blames all the bad living condition and poverty in this country to you, the kind Japanese people, and the majority of this country buy the nonsense and are willing to wage war against Taiwan and Japan like Russia is doing torwards Ukraine
[-] lmhhl | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 20:07:39
It’s the same logic when China justifies its massacre in Xinjiang, Tibet, Vietnam, etc. You don't need to agree with those views, but you shoulda know that these Chinese people have heard too much bullshit propaganda so they need to vent their feelings.
[-] Agitated-Abies6690 | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 20:49:29
欧洲各国风俗纯美,实由此圣律而来也。然此等圣律于川人无益,伊等固执于恶,不从圣教圣令,宁愿从我刀剑之下。故吾奉天主之命,珍灭此种僧党及世间恶 To summarise western people good good good Zhinese people bad bad bad The only language they knew is kill kill kill
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[-] MoonSeaWave2222 | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 23:10:06
Most people are Chinese in this sub. We just use VPN to avoid Great Firewall.
You need to know that Chinese did not civilize and enlighten. Many people truly believe in Social Darwinism. They think the world is rule by the law of the jungle.
So, do not call that they are brainwashed. they know what their belief. They just deeply believe in Chauvinism and Radical Chinese Nationalism.
Therefore, NO OPPONENT exist in China Mainland, they just dead in Tiananmen, or was sudiced by CCP like Liu Xiaobo.
Many Chinese do not think war and massacre is wrong. They just hate why it not they massacre others. Do you know 2012 anti-Japanese demonstration in China? they still saying drop a nuclear bomb in Japan right now.
China is pretending and camouflaging as a civilization and modernization. But it still is primitive and barbarous. that why we must reveal the true.
[-] ni_ta_ni | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 01:06:30
I’m well aware of the anti-Japanese sentiment amongst the Chinese population. I’m so glad there are people there who beg to differ. I thought that them feeling that way was just fair enough, but I now realized I have to educate myself more. Thanks
[-] _Catseye | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 00:42:42
We actually think the massacre is wrong, massacre is always wrong in anywhere. We just use the massacre to satire the racist in China. Because most of Chinese is not really mournful about massacre, they just hate why it not they massacre others.
and the 3rd question. Most the people opposed to CCP are in prison.
[-] Areniagow | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 00:47:26
这sub真的牛皮,把左翼太君都引过来了。
[-] dogmod_shannima | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 00:56:56
ん?
[-] PriorAny | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 01:20:06
Nie mówię po angielsku
[-] Hongkongjai | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 01:34:06
https://www.reddit.com/r/CLTV/comments/t7nmpz/b%E7%AB%99%E5%B1%A0%E5%AE%B6%E4%B9%A1%E4%BA%BA%E8%A8%80%E8%AE%BA%E5%B7%B2%E7%BF%BB%E8%AF%91_%E6%B1%82%E6%97%A5%E8%AF%AD%E8%BE%BE%E4%BA%BA%E6%8E%A5%E6%A3%92%E5%A4%A7%E7%BF%BB%E8%AF%91%E8%BF%90%E5%8A%A8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
[-] sammychiwawa | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 01:37:11
300k is no comparison to the 80 million who were killed by communism. There is not even one museum in China mourning the death of these people but ccp just never stops talking about Nanking. All I see is propaganda and hypocrisy.
[-] WangZhou19 | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 01:51:42
晶哥?
[-] NeyGorChowHai | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 01:53:12
taijun,this way
[-] Sergioserio | 1 points | Mar 06 2022 03:03:33
您吉祥
[-] thenamewasused | 1 points | Mar 05 2022 19:11:30
This is just entertainment