happy-concentrate18 | 1 points | Aug 05 2021 19:32:57
苹果决定将扫描iPhone查找炼铜图片[-] CrazyRunMouse | 21 points | Aug 05 2021 19:35:10
这下iCloud 变百度网盘了
[-] Tigrex8964 | 20 points | Aug 05 2021 19:46:16
建议自动扫描川粉言论配合谷歌无人驾驶汽车自动扭送最近的集中营
[-] Sager_Forever | 14 points | Aug 05 2021 22:01:27
这下云上德州了
[-] Tight-Pomegranate-21 | 6 points | Aug 05 2021 21:16:33
比支共还支了
[-] KRKTMK_97 | 4 points | Aug 06 2021 03:41:25
我存的二次元图不会被美国晶哥上门吧
[-] beutifulrain | 5 points | Aug 06 2021 05:07:23
你自己说了你手机里有二次元,我已经报警了。
[-] Xwc5E2 | 3 points | Aug 06 2021 02:57:18
自己diy一台nas就是往后的互联网数据城堡法
[-] nimadabirenrencha | 3 points | Aug 06 2021 07:36:40
这个都扫本地了,nas有啥意义
[-] wabjtam | 1 points | Aug 05 2021 19:45:28
写的什么垃圾
阿美云服务早就开始这种东西了,扫照片的方法不是看原图,而是上传前对比用户图片哈斯集合和已知炼铜图库集合。图片在云上还是加密的
[-] Sager_Forever | 6 points | Aug 05 2021 22:01:02
"Apple will enable all the suspect photos to be decrypted and, if apparently illegal, passed on to the relevant authorities.”
看看原文吧,你所谓的加密苹果可以随便decrypte,苹果的加密有后门的
[-] happy-concentrate18 | 4 points | Aug 05 2021 21:09:10
现在直接扫本地了和扫云能一样?
[-] DirectIndividual4621 | 2 points | Aug 05 2021 20:44:04
那只要简单need more jpeg就可以了
[-] wabjtam | 1 points | Aug 05 2021 21:43:52
苹果这个算哈斯的方法可以允许多多少少一些修改
[-] DirectIndividual4621 | 2 points | Aug 05 2021 21:55:56
蛤,你知道hash是什么吗
[-] computer-paper-recod | 2 points | Aug 06 2021 03:45:00
说实话我认为苹果这个可能是用的模糊 hash 之类的东西,这个国内网盘也在用
但是这个计划名字叫 neural Match 就感觉不太对劲,可能确实是用 ML 的
[-] wabjtam | 1 points | Aug 05 2021 22:18:44
&rt; Apple has made its own implementation of that database using a technology called "NeuralHash" that is designed to also catch edited but similar of the original imagines. That database will be stored on iPhones.
[-] DirectIndividual4621 | 7 points | Aug 05 2021 22:24:46
纯属挂羊头卖狗肉,deep learning图像识别都鸡巴叫Hash了,苹果司马了
[-] wabjtam | 2 points | Aug 05 2021 22:27:15
苹果这个符合定义,没有说ML就不能是hash func
&rt; A hash function is any function that can be used to map data of arbitrary size to fixed-size values. The values returned by a hash function are called hash values, hash codes, digests, or simply hashes. The values are usually used to index a fixed-size table called a hash table. Use of a hash function to index a hash table is called hashing or scatter storage addressing.
[-] DirectIndividual4621 | 3 points | Aug 05 2021 22:41:04
这个定义明显有问题,按那个定义下面这个也算hash了。
int hash(input){
return 1;
}
[-] wabjtam | 4 points | Aug 05 2021 22:45:44
没错啊 这是个trivial hash function。你要是想表达CHF的话,苹果的那个也符合定义因为它需要另外解原图密文才能得到原图而不是通过它的hash digest:
&rt; A cryptographic hash function (CHF) is a mathematical algorithm that maps data of arbitrary size (often called the "message") to a bit array of a fixed size (the "hash value", "hash", or "message digest"). It is a one-way function, that is, a function which is practically infeasible to invert or reverse the computation.[1] Ideally, the only way to find a message that produces a given hash is to attempt a brute-force search of possible inputs to see if they produce a match, or use a rainbow table of matched hashes. Cryptographic hash functions are a basic tool of modern cryptography.
[-] DirectIndividual4621 | 2 points | Aug 05 2021 22:55:58
&rt;这是个hash function
所以说那个定义是错的。
&rt;practically infeasible to invert or reverse the computation
苹果那种ML实质上已经可以允许误差还原原图数据了。
拿同样方法来搜查辱包图片也是可以的。
[-] wabjtam | 2 points | Aug 05 2021 23:11:27
什么叫那个定义是错的?CHF跟HF是不一样的:CHF ⊂ hash function 。你给的那个是个trivial HF因为它确实是个mapping虽然全是collisions,但它不是CHF。
允许误差不代表一定可以直接从hash digest还原,苹果这个具体怎么写的不知道,从初级加密学安全角度来看,苹果不是脑残,应该不会写一个可以被reversed的HF来干这种事情,十有八九它是个CHF。
[-] yodadaydreamer | 1 points | Aug 06 2021 14:54:33
這東西既然名字是這樣基本上就是從論文出來的,就看論文就得了,還用得着猜
https://github.com/caoyue10/DeepHash-Papers
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[-] Sager_Forever | 0 points | Aug 05 2021 22:03:08
你知道hash是什么吗?您给我来一个允许修改的哈希算法
[-] wabjtam | 1 points | Aug 05 2021 22:19:11
&rt; Apple has made its own implementation of that database using a technology called "NeuralHash" that is designed to also catch edited but similar of the original imagines. That database will be stored on iPhones.
[-] Sager_Forever | 2 points | Aug 06 2021 17:48:41
这和hash算法有屁关系,不过是基于neural network 的特征提取罢了。给你个hash名字忽悠你。hash的目的就是微小的input区别造成完全不同的output
[-] KaiwenKHB | 1 points | Aug 07 2021 04:30:36
hash比对总归还是扫描,现在有技术了想扫描别的“违法图片”也就加个数据库的事。都开始扫描本地用户相册了谁再用苹果谁傻逼了属于是
[-] yodadaydreamer | 1 points | Aug 06 2021 15:02:08
這是 Apple 自己發出的簡介,ML老嗨們可以看一下
https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/CSAM_Detection_Technical_Summary.pdf
[-] happy-concentrate18 | 22 points | Aug 05 2021 19:33:17
左逼__了